Can Llama3.2 Vision be used by researchers in europe? : r/LocalLLaMA
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You’ll need to read it in detail but as I recall, research is exempt from most of the provisions of the EU Artificial Intelligence legislation.
You’ll need to read it in detail but as I recall, research is exempt from most of the provisions of the EU Artificial Intelligence legislation.
Also, some of that legislation only comes into effect at specific dates, so even if it wouldn’t be exempt because it’s research, it may still be unaffected depending on the dates.
IANAL, but afaik the AI Act doesn’t matter here (even if it is the core reason). The Llama 3.2 Use Policy specifically includes
With respect to any multimodal models included in Llama 3.2, the rights granted under Section 1(a) of the Llama 3.2 Community License Agreement are not being granted to you if you are an individual domiciled in, or a company with a principal place of business in, the European Union. This restriction does not apply to end users of a product or service that incorporates any such multimodal models.
meaning you are not granted the rights to use the vision models by Meta. Will they sue you if you publish research on it and are located in the EU? Probably not, but technically you are prohibited to use it by Meta.
Ah, fair enough, I hadn’t considered that side of the legal question.
This makes me so angry that I’m once again using GDPR to have my personalized data deleted from all US companies - it’s automated here for a few euros.
But if only I were a US citizen, I’d be allowed to use Llama 3.2 and could be a crypto redneck.
be allowed to use Llama 3.2 and could be a crypto redneck
why not both? while driving diesel 350 with a gun in the gun rack
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I’m not lawyer, this is not advice, and I am probably wrong, but does a service like Openrouter bypass the restriction? Openrouter is a service that incorporates the model and you are an end user.
Not going to help if your goal is fine tuning.
Likely same as VPN allows access to things which are geoblocked. No more. No less.
Openrouter ignores geoblocks (so you use them to access models(including hosted ones like OpenAIs) from countries which are not allowed).
Meta could ask Openrouter to fix this issue and they add formal restriction to their ToS.
It would go same way as children under 13 on FB/Youtube (There shouldn’t be any of them - it’s forbidden per ToS but somehow they DO get there, usually by lying about their age).
That’s how I read it, too. I think you’re right.
There’s no way that they will enforce this against ordinary people. It’s just bad publicity. But using it professionally is probably not sustainable. Building a company like Openrouter or Civitai is not viable in the EU.
For reference, 1(a) reads as follows:
a. Grant of Rights. You are granted a non-exclusive, worldwide, non-transferable and royalty-free limited license under Meta’s intellectual property or other rights owned by Meta embodied in the Llama Materials to use, reproduce, distribute, copy, create derivative works of, and make modifications to the Llama Materials.
https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-models/blob/main/models/llama3_2/LICENSE
The grant is purely permissive. What is forbidden?
These are the rights that are not being granted if you are in the EU. Outside the EU, you are granted these rights. Inside the EU, you are not.
Here’s what 4o says about restrictions relevant to its use in the EU in the Llama 3.2 Community License:
Usage must adhere to EU regulations, including trade compliance laws and Meta’s Acceptable Use Policy.
In my mind, the key questions are:
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Has the EU merely forbidden Meta from doing something, or am I in violation of EU regulations if I somehow acquire and inference the model in Europe?
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If so, when would I need to worry about consequences, aside from private remorse at having done such a thing?
That’s the software license of some of the Llama 3.2 models. It’s not directly to do with EU regulations. If you use them in the EU, that’s just software piracy.
I am convinced that Meta will not go after any individuals who do pirate these models. There’s really nothing to be gained for them, except bad publicity.
EU regulations are another can of worms. The regulations for LLMs will start to apply in August 2025. Maybe there will be delays because the enforcement is not ready. We’ll see. But expect a lot of grief in a year or so.
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